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Post by Tomcat Murr on Aug 27, 2016 12:55:02 GMT -5
Ah, but now we're a little trapped. There are no more Vampires left. To move 2 spaces, they both need to be on 2 to beat Jiangshi - which means none can be on 3. And if Jiangshi is on 1 space, then Mummy moves (I forget where Mummy is, whether that's alright or not, though - too lazy to look).
Though the odds are I'll get 1 more Gumiho to block anything moving on 3. So not too bad.
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Post by soullimbo on Aug 28, 2016 8:55:08 GMT -5
this is the current order in the race:
SPACE 4: VAMPIRE piggybacking ZOMBIE SPACE 3: GUMIHO SPACE 1: MUMMY START: JIANGSHI
this is the current round: 1 space - VAMPIRE (x2), JIANGSHI (x1), ZOMBIE(x2) , MUMMY (x1) 2 spaces - JIANGSHI (x2), GUMIHO (x1) , VAMPIRE (x1) 3 spaces - MUMMY(x3), GUMIHO (x2).
I got Vampire / Vampire / Jiangshi
I place both vampires on the second spaces...this guarentees that vampire (with zombie piggybacking) will move to space 6 in the race. I place jiangshi on the first spot, so that the mummy is currently winning the 1 space race. Gumiho now has no chance of moving. Now it all depends what you get Tomcat. Ideally, you get at least 1 gumiho and 1 zombie. Place both of those on the 3 spaces, and it means that zombie will end up on space 9!!! The only problem we have then, is to ensure that Gumiho does not win the 3 spaces next round, cause that would mean him piggybacking vampire, but I'm sure we can work round it.
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Aug 28, 2016 10:50:00 GMT -5
If I put 1 Gumiho on space 1, so it's tied with Mummy, that means nothing moves, right? Even though they'd both have the 2nd most after the 3-way tie?
Also, it might be a good idea to try to move Jiangshi next round - at least move it something. Just to try to ensure it's ahead of Mummy, for your benefit (If, for example, Nyx has Gumiho and Mummy - if you both have the same characters and tie, then I can just pick Nyx for the Death Match).
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Post by soullimbo on Aug 28, 2016 13:05:53 GMT -5
if Nat gives the extra token of life to me, it won't matter either way...nyx and adam automatically go to the death match
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Post by soullimbo on Aug 28, 2016 13:18:24 GMT -5
what we need to decide now is if we get Than to skip? I think it would be a good idea. Then, when it gets to that round, either Tomcat or I skip (assuming malachai or javi don't skip), so that's a minimum of 2 rounds before nyx can skip again. By then, vampire and Zombie will be too far ahead.... Thoughts?
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Post by soullimbo on Aug 28, 2016 13:22:25 GMT -5
shit! I've misread the rules lol. The player with the least points goes to the death match, and then Nat would choose which otherplayer to give the token of life to. oh well lol. not to worry, carry on as planned!
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Post by soullimbo on Aug 28, 2016 13:38:53 GMT -5
update on characters "in the bag":
Vampire - 5
Jiangshi - 4
Mummy - 6
Zombie - 4
Gumiho - 5
This is what we know:
Pete - Jiangshi / Gumiho
Adam - Mummy / Zombie
Nat - Vampire / Zombie
Than - Vampire / Jiangshi
Tomcat - Vampire / Zombie
So these are the 6 that are left for Nyx / Malachai / Javi Zombie - 1 Jiangshi - 2 Mummy - 1 Vampire - 0 Gumiho - 2
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Aug 28, 2016 18:22:01 GMT -5
I think it's a safe bet Nyx doesn't have Zombie, given her tirade. We know she doesn't have Vampire.
I assume she has Gumiho, considering how much they're pushing it. She might have Mummy, or she might have Jiangshi. Considering they seem more keen on moving Mummy, I'd guess that - and it would make sense for she and Adam to pick one different and one the same. Which means we need Jiangshi to beat Mummy - or at least tie with Mummy - to keep you from coming in last (since Adam has Zombie).
Also, if Adam and Javi picked opposites/Adam asked him to pick different characters, and we know he doesn't have Vampire, then it's a safe bet that Javi has Jiangshi/Gumiho.
So...
(Adam - Mummy / Zombie) Javi - Jiangshi / Gumiho Nyx - Gumiho / Mummy Malachai - Jiangshi / Zombie
It would make sense that Adam/Javi's strategy was coordinate with Nyx and Malachai, who would then both have different characters, too, while every player shares 1 character with another player. I think similar to how we set it up last season (I think Than was involved in that, through you)? Which means Jiangshi needs to beat Mummy. If I'm wrong and Nyx has Jiangshi, then you tie and Nat and I decide which one of you goes to the Death Match (ie: Nyx goes to the Death Match). No big.
I'm fine with Than skipping, then me skipping the following round. There is a risk vs. reward element - on one hand, we maintain the last spot for 2 rounds (and Nyx can't take it back); on the other hand, one of us is out of play both of those rounds. I'm alright with that if you are, though. How do we do that with garnets, though? You pay on his behalf, or can I?
Either way, main focus right now is to get Jiangshi to move past Mummy (which also means blocking Mummy and Gumiho from moving more) so you don't lose. If we can manage that while getting Zombie, or at least Vampire, to move a couple spaces... that would be ideal.
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Aug 28, 2016 18:41:50 GMT -5
Actually...
Only 3 characters will earn ANY points. So, we don't actually *need* to move Jiangshi.. we just need to make sure Mummy never passes Gumiho. Vampire and Zombie would get 2 and 3 points (respectively, if all goes according to plan) - Gumiho would get 1 point. Mummy and Jiangshi would get 0. Which means you and Nyx would tie for for last (since both would only get Gumiho point/s), which is fine.
See, this is why you're supposed to actually read rules! Lulz.
Alright, so not as dire as I thought. We don't actually need to move Jiangshi. We just need to keep Mummy from moving past Gumiho. Still might not be a bad idea to move Jiangshi if we're in a corner with other moves, though. But mostly, Mummy passing Gumiho = baaaaaaad.
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Post by soullimbo on Aug 29, 2016 3:53:07 GMT -5
Yeah, makes sense. The only possible fly in the ointment is if Nyx has Zombie (but it is unlikely given her rant, as you said, though that could be just for show). So we'll go with Gumiho finishing ahead of mummy and jiangshi. One way to make absolutely sure is if we get vampire 1st , gumiho 2nd and zombie 3rd. You and nat would still win euqal 1st place, but then I'm guaranteed not to finish last. This however, could be tricky since zombie is already on spot 9. Forget that, We'll just go ahead as planned ok, and try and get gumiho in 3rd place. If that fails and I come last, give the token to Adam, and I'll take nyx to the death match.
One more thing, if Nyx has Gumiho / jiangshi or gumiho / mummy , and gumiho finishes 3rd, then we would be tied on 1 point in last place. I read in the rules and in that situation, the person with the most garnets would win. Right now, nyx has skipped twice, meaning that in the garnet count, I'm now ahead of her by 1. Would you mind giving 1 garnet to Than for him to skip, this way I stay ahead of Nyx in the count. I'll then give you one garnet when the match is over. You ok with that?
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Post by soullimbo on Aug 29, 2016 3:58:13 GMT -5
Nat: We don't want mummy to move ahead of gumiho, but we also don't want gumiho to move 3 spaces this round as he would be on top of vampire. Best plan is to make sure we have vampires x2 on the 3rd space and jiangshi x1 on 3rd space (meaning a character would need 3 on that space to win) , any mummy we get we place on space 1, gumihos too. Does that make sense, thoughts?
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Aug 29, 2016 9:21:24 GMT -5
I'm not quite sure how Than skips... does he need a garnet himself, or does him skipping automatically come out of your garnets? ie: Do I give a garnet to Than or to you?
Oh... the high garnet tie is for the winner/token of life, not last place But that's a question to ask (I'll do it in a separate post to Mas). If that is the case for last place/choosing the automatic Death Match candidate, I could just transfer garnets to you before the game ends, if your garnet count is lower than Nyx's. I don't imagine that'll be the case, though.
Yeah... Vampire - Gumiho - Zombie would be the ideal order. But Zombie is so far ahead, that's giving others time to catch up. However, if somehow we could move Vampire a good amount this round/keep Mummy from moving at all and keep Gumiho from moving far, that might be possible.
If Nyx were anyone else, I'd say her being upset could just be for show. But since it's Nyx, I'd guess that isn't likely.
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Aug 29, 2016 9:23:25 GMT -5
Mas, I have a couple questions for you:
1.) For Than to skip, would we need to give him a garnet, or does the garnet come out of Pete's?
2.) What happens in the event of a tie for last place? Does the winner chose who goes to the Death Match, is it determined by garnet count... ?
Thanks!
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Post by Bandage Man on Aug 29, 2016 9:54:44 GMT -5
Mas, I have a couple questions for you: 1.) For Than to skip, would we need to give him a garnet, or does the garnet come out of Pete's? 2.) What happens in the event of a tie for last place? Does the winner chose who goes to the Death Match, is it determined by garnet count... ? Thanks! 1) It would come out the partner's garnet count. 2) The winner would decide who to pick if there is a tie for last place.
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Post by soullimbo on Aug 29, 2016 9:58:38 GMT -5
Thanks Mas.
We'll just ask Than to skip, it will come out of my garnets then we'll figure something out before the end of the match should it come to that ok.
Mas, what would happen if 2 players are tied in last place and are also tied in the garnet count?
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