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Post by Bandage Man on Jul 17, 2016 21:49:11 GMT -5
Here is your deck:
0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, -, -, -, ÷, ÷, ÷, +, +, x, x
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Jul 17, 2016 23:50:55 GMT -5
A few questions:
1.) So, we don't see the cards until they're revealed one at a time, correct? So even if we ask for a re-shuffle, we'll still only see the back of the cards?
2.) It must alternate numbers and symbols, right? So if it's "9 7 - + 8", that would simplify to "9 - 8", correct?
3.) The better decks would then have higher numbers and more + and x, I'm guessing. Will the shuffle also be more likely to be more advantageous, or just the cards?
4.) If we buy multiple decks, do we have to choose one deck, or do we use all of them? ie: if I were to buy 3 decks, would that mean I have 60 cards, or would I need to choose one of the decks and only have 20 cards?
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Post by Bandage Man on Jul 18, 2016 1:11:25 GMT -5
A few questions: 1.) So, we don't see the cards until they're revealed one at a time, correct? So even if we ask for a re-shuffle, we'll still only see the back of the cards? 2.) It must alternate numbers and symbols, right? So if it's "9 7 - + 8", that would simplify to "9 - 8", correct? 3.) The better decks would then have higher numbers and more + and x, I'm guessing. Will the shuffle also be more likely to be more advantageous, or just the cards? 4.) If we buy multiple decks, do we have to choose one deck, or do we use all of them? ie: if I were to buy 3 decks, would that mean I have 60 cards, or would I need to choose one of the decks and only have 20 cards? 1) Yes, correct. 2. yes, correct again. 3) i'm not understanding what u mean the shuffle will be more advantageous. the 20 cards you submitted will be done randomly so there's not exactly any advantage in the shuffling of the cards. 4) Out of the total number of cards, I just need you to pick 20 cards from any of the decks to make your own custom deck.
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Jul 18, 2016 2:16:14 GMT -5
Ah, thank you. I was curious if the shuffle for the better decks would be more likely to alternate numbers and symbols (ie: a not so random shuffle), but since we just pick 20 cards, it makes sense now.
I'm curious why reshuffling is an option, considering there doesn't seem to be any advantage to reshuffling if we don't see the cards first. Typically, you'd only want to reshuffle if you get a bad hand - but without even knowing the order, seems unnecessary. I'll find the episode and watch the challenge before I decide what to do.
Thanks for the answers!
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Jul 18, 2016 3:10:49 GMT -5
I just realize where you could shoot yourself in the foot with this... if someone managed to get all x, then if x is the card furthest to the left, they can only get 0. Likewise, a - or division symbol in the wrong place could cause all of your x to put you well into negative numbers. Which means theoretically, someone could at least not lose with 0. That makes this tricky... whether to try to win, or try to just not lose. With a mixture of + and x, with high numbers, pretty sure to not lose. But so much depends on luck - how the cards are shuffled. There has to be something else to this...
I wouldn't even mind saving garnets and losing. But I don't want to risk me losing, Nyx winning, and having to challenge someone else. Which means I don't want to lose.
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Jul 18, 2016 10:34:14 GMT -5
More questions after watching the episode:
1.) Do the colors of the stars by the packs correspond with the color of the "B" for the back of the deck?
2.) Can we flip certain cards when handing you the deck, so they're shown upside-down? ie: could a pack read b b b q b q q b b q b b b etc...? (using lowercase because I don't know how to do a backwards capital B) Basically, what Jinho did to win.
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Post by Bandage Man on Jul 18, 2016 10:35:48 GMT -5
More questions after watching the episode: 1.) Do the colors of the stars by the packs correspond with the color of the "B" for the back of the deck? 2.) Can we flip certain cards when handing you the deck, so they're shown upside-down? ie: could a pack read b b b q b q q b b q b b b etc...? (using lowercase because I don't know how to do a backwards capital B) 1. I can't give you an answer. You have to buy to figure it out. 2. No flipping of cards.
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Jul 18, 2016 10:59:27 GMT -5
Thanks! I was really counting on flipping the cards, though.
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Jul 18, 2016 12:05:17 GMT -5
Alright, so... without being able to flip cards, this becomes very complicated. To get a deck of 20 cards, you'd need to ultimately use some cards and symbols with the same color, which could completely ruin you if a symbol pops up the furthest left. Unless...
You were to buy 5 decks for 10 multiplication symbols. Then use your basic deck for its numbered cards. But then you still have 0, so would have to trade (I'm assuming we can trade, based on Pete's plan). It might not be hard to, for example, trade with Misty or Rachael - give them a 0 and a 9 in exchange for, say, two 3s (something low, to make the trade seem worth it). This way you'd have 10 x, and 10 numbers all with value that aren't gonna put you at 0, and ensure you can get # x # x # x # x # (#/x)... While you only need 4 x in the sequence, you need more than 4 in your deck to make sure you're not overlapping number and symbol cards of the same color.
Could easily go broke on this. Yes, I could win... buy a green deck for the numbers, buy 4 blue decks for the symbols (added to the symbols of the basic deck). But that's 14 garnets. That's the only way to 100% win and make sure you have a perfect hand. Otherwise, you're either dealing with potentially low cards, OR using the same color for numbers and symbols and, without being able to flip the cards, it's entirely down to luck of the shuffle.
Still trying to think if there's something I'm missing.
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Jul 19, 2016 3:25:35 GMT -5
Ugh. Screw it.
I will buy the green deck for 6 garnets, please.
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Post by Bandage Man on Jul 19, 2016 3:50:12 GMT -5
3 star deck – 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9, 10, 10, -, -, ÷, ÷, +, +, +, x, x, x
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Jul 19, 2016 13:47:00 GMT -5
nevermind, have to think
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Post by Tomcat Murr on Jul 19, 2016 20:20:57 GMT -5
EDIT: changed it a tiny bit. Sorry.
My deck (see my board with Misty for our trade - my 2 remaining green 7s for her basic deck 7)
x x x x x 9 9 9 8 8 8 7 7 7 7 6 + + - -
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